MLS breaks attendance records on the opening weekend of the new season as both Charlotte and Atlanta welcome over 67,000 fans - more than the average crowd at 13 NFL teams! And four months after Jones left the army Muriel was raped and shot dead as she walked home from a school bus in Penllergaer, Swansea. Two months too young to face the gallows, he was sent to Usk Prison where he sensationally confessed to the first killing, blaming the voice of a 'demon' in his head. Video, 00:02:56, Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle. Muriel Joan Drinkwater was raped in Penllergaer Woods, beaten about the head with a blunt instrument and then shot with a World War I Colt 45 on 27 June 1946. He must have known she was near home because she waved and if we are saying this was a planned attack he wouldve studied Muriels routine, studied her route, he was near where her route went, that is a very specific route to go in and out the forest, and with balance of probability he therefore must have known Muriel and her family business to cripple the mother to cripple the business. I am leaning towards it being a targeted attack, in part because of the positioning of the perpetrator as you mentioned. Police are closer than ever to finding her killer, "Secrecy over 1940 murder as DNA offers new leads", "The unsolved murder of a 12-year-old brutally abused and killed", "Serial Slaying of Pretty Women Has New Scotland Yard Confused", "Detectives link Muriel Drinkwater and Sheila Martin murders", "The chilling tale of a man who bludgeoned his relatives to death with a hammer and paid the ultimate price", "The unsolved murder of 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater and the new suspect identified", "Muriel Drinkwater murder file is declared secret at request of police", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Murder_of_Muriel_Drinkwater&oldid=1138738141, This page was last edited on 11 February 2023, at 09:11. Muriel was skipping through the woods on the afternoon of June 27, 1946, as she did every day on her way from school, when the summer's afternoon turned to tragedy. Hey Babes!I'm back with another True Crime Tuesday case and todays case is about the murder of Muriel Drinkwater also known as the little red riding hood mur. The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. I live on the land of penllergaer woods and I have some information that I think u would like to hear.. how can I get in contact with u to chat.? Follow. It was believed a similar weapon had been used in the murder of a cinema manager in Bristol. Filmed as part of documentary Dark Land: Hunting the Killers, that is being shown on BBC Wales, the name of murderer Ronnie Harries, the last man to have been hanged in Carmarthen, has been put forward by the team that is headed by the former chief constable of Dyfed Powys Police Jackie Roberts. Muriel was murdered 16 years before I was born, but it was a story I had heard from a young age. Thank you so much for this detailed update. A 73-year-old sample semen has conclusively disproved the theory Harold Jones was the killer of 12-year-old schoolgirl Muriel Drinkwater, Get the latest court and crime news from WalesOnline. I hope Margaret gets the answers she deserves sooner rather than later. That DNA was initially used to rule from suspicion someone who had been spotted close to the woods on the afternoon Muriel was attacked. I am not a DNA scientist so sadly I cannot answer this question for you. Who sodomises a 12 year old girl and batters her about the head, then shoots her twice in the chest? He died at that address in 1971. Forensic historian Nell Darby found similarities in the case of Muriel Drinkwater and the later Ronnie Harries farmhouse murders in old newspaper articles from the time. Muriels niece Margaret is desperate to get the books back. Dubbed the 'Little Red Riding Hood murder', the 12-year-old had been killed amongst the undergrowth at Penllergaer Woods whilst on her way home from school one June afternoon. In the days and weeks that followed Muriel's murder, police officers visited every farmhouse and cottage within 150 square miles, along with interviewing 20,000 men in Swansea, Aberdare and Carmarthenshire. - Listen to The Unsolved Murder of Muriel Drinkwater by The True Crime Files instantly on your tablet, phone or browser - no downloads needed. We also may change the frequency you receive our emails from us in order to keep you up to date and give you the best relevant information possible. And no idea and Japanese workers. Hi Christine. If you can contact [emailprotected] Id really appreciate it. Sometimes the rumours and suspicion in these unsolved cases does almost as much damage to the community as the crime itself. profiling. However, in 2008, a team of retired detectives investigating cold cases found Drinkwater's clothes in storage. 74 years ago, Muriel Drinkwater was murdered. Request number 772/21. [11] Hoyles, who saw Drinkwater after buying eggs at her parents' farm, was cleared by the DNA evidence. It truly is baffling and I cant help but wonder what they are trying to hide (and why!). Another wait and see. ', Glamorgan Police and men of the 169th Bomb Disposal Unit make a break for a meal during their search for evidence after her murder on June 27, 1946, Jones, originally of Abertillery, South Wales, is a suspect in the killings of six women in London in the 1960s. Ms Drinkwater was seen by her mother in the distance. The electoral register having been suspended because of the war means details are hazy about where he ended up - although he did eventually resurface in South London under the name Harry Stevens, leading some to believe he was also Jack The Stripper - the serial killer who battered and strangled a number of women across the capital during the 1960s. The team tracked down Harries' cousin Lynn Hughes who described how the only child had been "spoilt" by his parents and was very "childish". Her mother Margaret watched from the house as the youngest of. On this podcast episode, we cover the unsolved cold case of Muriel Drinkwater. Thanks again ~ Christine, Your email address will not be published. "It does make you think that Muriel Drinkwater (who passed her 11-Plus to get into grammar school) is the sort of girl he would have been interested in. They visited the Carmarthen bookshop to identify if the killers family had taken the books there. Sorry I doubled up on some of the above but cant edit it. Nevertheless, local legend tells of how, after leaving prison, he'd return to his parents' house in Abertillery from time to time, where the sound of him playing the organ in their front room would haunt the terraced streets. Her eyes were wide open and her skin was deathly white. Investigators now allege theyve identified her murderer. It is now more than 70 years since the 12-year-old schoolgirl was brutally raped, battered around the head . In 2008,Detective Chief Inspector Paul Bethell located Muriels blue coat, underwear, and school uniform in police storage. [3] In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect was extracted from her clothes, possibly the oldest sample in the world to be successfully extracted in a murder investigation. He could not be placed at the scene, and the DNA ruled him out of the investigation. Psychic Diane Lazarus. If you have any information about Muriels murder, please contact the South Wales Policevia email at[emailprotected], Mystery of 1946 murder in woods BBC News article, The real waking the dead: This schoolgirls savage murder has mystified police for 62 years. It was believed the victim's clothes had been lost. Photo added by Tracey. She was buried at St David's Church in Penllergaer. Police believe 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater might have been a victim of a notorious serial killer when she was raped and murdered in 1946. The gun was described as aColt 45 American army issue automatic pistol, first issued for World War I but probably also used in World War II, which significantly had the original wooden stocks next to the grip modernised with perspex.. Required fields are marked *. 'Due to advances in forensic technology we have been able to look again at evidence from the murder in 1946 and I am now able to rule out Harold Jones completely as a suspect in this case. The identity of the man who murdered a schoolgirl in 1946 remains a mystery after DNA left on her'little red riding hood' coat failed to link to a notorious child killer. I am in regular contact with a niece of Muriel Drinkwater who has told me that members of her family gave South Wales Police samples of their D.N.A.. "[14][5], In 2020, the BBC One documentary Dark Land: Hunting the Killers suggested that Ronnie Harries could be the murderer. He also fixates on the fact that he is married to a younger woman, that she is five years younger than him, that she started going out with him when she was still in school. And the truth will never be known. It is now more than 70 years since the 12-year-old schoolgirl was brutally raped, battered around the head and shot twice while walking home. Muriel, who lived on Tyle-Du farm at Penllergaer, near Swansea, went missing on Thursday, June 27th, 1946, and her body was found next day in Penllergaer woods. She was seen by her mother from a distance of 400 yards away, but before Muriel could arrive. Those who have not failed may not have succeeded. There are far too many retired people out there who want to write books about unsolved murders, trawling through these records and coming up with half-baked theories.. Muriel Drinkwater murder: Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? 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The authorities went as far as to suggest that someone in the Penllergaer region knows about the murder weapon but is protecting the owner by withholding information. Up Next. After discussing this development with Muriels niece, myself, Muriels niece and a number of of her nursing friends came to the same conclusion that if Jones daughter isnt his biological daughter then Jones could not completely rule out Jones as a suspect. Muriel Joan Drinkwater was the youngest of four daughters born to John Percival and Margaret ( ne Morgans) Drinkwater. Muriel Joan Drinkwater was the youngest daughter of four born to Margaret and John Percival Drinkwater, a smallholder and forestry worker in Swansea, Wales. Posted by 8 minutes ago. "Each case is reviewed periodically," he adds. DNA was taken from the relatives of both Muriel and Ronnie Harries but the results have not been made public. She was seen by her mother from a distance of 400 yards away, but before Muriel could arrive home, she was murdered. The Crime Review Group already have the information that I request. They had been regular churchgoers, but stopped going to church and moved away from the farm within two years of the murder. Accountant Graham Wildin built an incredible 10,000sq/ft leisure complex - which has a bowling alley, casino, a cinema and more - at the back of his home. Advertisement. [16][17], In 2010, the Lord Chancellor's Advisory Council on National Records and Archives closed off public access to the case, acting at the behest of Scotland Yard. Video, 00:01:18, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story, WATCH: Key moments from PM's NI Brexit deal speech. Paul.. What a big moment in this case! Hi Neil. It was also tested against the DNA of one Harold Jones, a convicted double child murderer who slayed two similarly young girls in Abertillery in the 1920s, to see if he might be the perpetrator. Given that Hoyles was the last person to see Muriel alive, he quickly fell under a thick veil of suspicion. It was an article that said that Harries had worked for Muriel's father John at the time of her murder. Pinterest. Thanks again for sharing this. "We realise whoever did this might be dead, but if he is alive and in his 80s or even 90s we would like to see him behind bars," said Muriel's great-niece Claire Phillips, speaking about developments last October. Sadly though, this has proved not to be. She was shot twice in the chest. The True Crime Files "[4] Police also circulated photos of the United States Army-issued gun; notably, perspex had been used to modernise the original wooden stocks next to the grip. Update: I have left it two weeks for the . I have requested information regarding the cost of the re-investigation of Muriels murder since 2008. Video, 00:01:28The 'smart suit' that is changing children's lives, View from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat helicopter. To see documentary google Dark Lands Muriel Drinkwater iplayer. Although an extensive investigation was conducted that involved the police visiting every farmhouse and cottage within 150 square miles and interviewing 20,000 men in Swansea, Aberdare and Carmarthenshire, the case that has become known as theLittle Red Riding Hood Murder remains unsolved. Casey DeSantis says Ron looked like Tom Cruise in his white Navy uniform when then got married at Disney: Florida's First Family says venue was an 'ironic' choice, Ron DeSantis claims former Disney CEO Bob Chapek privately complained to him about the 'pressure' he was under from woke Left to wade in on Florida's 'Don't say gay' bill. D.C, Paul Rogers, independent of Victor Penalunas theory, contacted me by phone and told me that his research had led him to believe that Harold Jones may have been Muriel Drinkwaters killer. In 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was murdered in the woods of Swansea, Wales. http://www.tcbmediarights.com/screeners/dark_son.html. Click hereto hear the Audio File of this case. In fact, it was recently used to identifyJoseph James DeAngelo, the suspected Golden State Killer who is thought to be responsible for at least a dozen murders and 50 rapes in the 1970s and 1980s in the United States. The case, which became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder, is one of the oldest active cold cases in the United Kingdom. I guess a DNA test of Sheila Martin must have been taken to see if it was the same person. [10], Police visited every house within 150 square miles and interviewed 20,000 men in Swansea and in neighbouring Aberdare and Carmarthenshire. Take a second to support Christine on Patreon! A US Army Colt .45 service revolver was used to shoot Muriel Drinkwater, 12, in the chest, after her killer had beaten and raped her. ADVERTISEMENT BY ANCESTRY.COM. Norah Irene Bartlett. It was tracked down to a store room, in a current police station, in a very dark corner. "We had access to the files and identified that a semen stain had been found on the coat. The murder of Muriel Drinkwater is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. Lets deduce, her killer was obviously male, or were they, unless they had extracted the sperm from another person it is definite that they are a male, so we have a male, s/ that narrows it down. "Due to advances in forensic technology we have been able to look again at evidence from the murder in 1946 and I am now able to rule him out completely as a suspect in this case. In a Welsh village during the summer of 1946, a 12-year-old girl is brutally murdered. Video, 00:02:56Detectives to revisit unsolved murder, Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle. Twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was a choirgirl who dreamed of being a schoolteacher. It doesnt take much working out who the unnamed source with South Wales Police was! So with that revelation the re-opened inquiry could have cost 15 million or more as did the Gwent Police inquiry into the disgraced former Abertillery care home owner Dr Dana Pras. ", * Dark Land: Hunting the Killers is on BBC iPlayer, School friends at the grave of Muriel Drinkwater, whose murder in 1946 remains one of the most horrifying in Welsh history. This will enable the police to identify Muriels murderer by taking and testing swabs from the perpetrators sons, grandsons, or even great-grandsons. The last person who reported seeing her was Hubert Hoyles, then 13, who passed her on the path returning from her family farm, where he had gone to buy eggs. The team also uncovered a book that had once belonged to Muriel but was found in a Carmarthen charity shop. Regards. I really appreciate your local insights. Wife of James Anthony Drinkwater and mother to Carole Suzanne, Stephen Mark, Simon Anthony and Russell John Drinkwater. She was hoping in her lifetime to find out who killed her aunt. 4th daughter born to Lilian and Charles Herbert Irvine in Liverpool. The comments below have not been moderated. I wonder if there was a sketch done when Hoyles confronted a man weeks earlier. Thought to be one of the oldest pieces of crime scene evidence in the world, it was initially used to rule from suspicion someone who had been spotted close to the woods on the afternoon Muriel was attacked. Despite a number of leads and suspects, police have not been able to identify her killer. Photo added by Graceti. 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Muriel Drinkwater - Swansea, 1946 On 27th June 1946, Margaret Drinkwater was making tea in the family farm house in Penllegaer near Swansea when she looked out of the window to see her daughter . [citation needed], In 2009, Welsh police began reinvestigating any link with the murder of 11-year-old Sheila Martin, who was raped and strangled 250 miles away in Sun Hill Wood, Fawkham Green, Kent, on 7 July 1946, ten days after Drinkwater's murder. There is little doubt that Muriels murderer was lying in wait, just counting the minutes until he could commit his heinous crime. As you know it is not possible to prove whether Harold Jones was Muriels killer by D.N.A testing Jones daughter. Police and soldiers search the area for clues of Muriel's murder, A picture of Muriel's schoolmates with flowers for her grave, Freda Burnell (left) and Florence Little (right) - Jones' first victims, At 35-years-old Jones is released from prison, only to vanish. Thank you Christine. [4], More than 3,000 mourners attended Drinkwater's funeral on 2 July. And if you want to write a guest post that covers the update for distribution on the website, let us know. Was a local stalking Muriel? with South Wales Police has recently conceded that it CANNOT be categorically stated that Harold Jones has been ruled out completely as Muriels killer. On this occasion he was rude to me claiming that he knew nothing about any information sent to South Wales Police from D.C. Paul Rogers. Over 20,000 men were interviewed about the crime . In mid 2007, I had extensive contact with Detective Constable Paul Rogers of the London Metropolitan Police. Hoyles lamented, For years, Ive lived with the knowledge that some people in the community suspected me. Muriel Drinkwater was laying on her back, one arm outstretched by her side and the other slightly raised. "I have spoken to Muriel's family and bring them up to date with the latest details of this investigation. 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